This Huge Camera Rig Busts People for Texting and Driving

Discussion in 'Open Gear Talk' started by Jock Elliott, May 25, 2016.

  1. Jock Elliott

    Jock Elliott SC All-Pro

    Jan 3, 2012
    Troy, NY
  2. dalethorn

    dalethorn Guest

    When using a spotting scope/camera, you may get an unambiguous photo of distracted driving, but it may also be ambiguous, or worse, misleading. If a driver is pulled over, the best evidence is the phone itself and the log of what happened and when.
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  3. Petach

    Petach SC All-Pro

    Oct 22, 2011
    UK, Essex
    Peter Tachauer
    If the USA is anything like the UK you aren't going to get a log from the phone without a court order or data protection act waiver. A log of who is called would be data, personal data retrieved from a computer (even though a mobile phone it is still a computer) and would only be released if a serious crime is being investigated. in any event you wouldn't need it. It is enough for an officer to say he or she saw it being used, much the same as an officer witnesses any offence being committed. A photo of a mobile phone in your hand whether to your ear or on the wheel or holding it anywhere in the car would be enough.
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  4. dalethorn

    dalethorn Guest

    What you said there "A photo of a mobile phone", may be clear enough if I'm facing you and we're standing up and you are using it, but from a distance and even with a powerful camera, you'll have a lot of arrests where the image is ambiguous. There's a huge push on, a veritable panic in the citizenry driving this effort, and having taken a 10-week police course, I've seen some of it from the inside. BTW, in the U.S., cellphones have proven to be a great thing in cars, since drunk/impaired drivers get reported sooner, and statistics show a significant reduction in traffic fatalities.
  5. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    I believe that people who text and drive should be locked up. And throw away the key.
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  6. Petach

    Petach SC All-Pro

    Oct 22, 2011
    UK, Essex
    Peter Tachauer
    Indeed. I actually reported a lady driving at 45mph in the centre lane of a motorway. She was reading a paperback novel in her hand resting on the steering wheel and also had a ciggie going in the other hand.

    In the UK, a motoring offence is not a serious enough crime to get data from a phone....unless it involved a fatal or serious injury accident. In fact, I believe that if a person puts the phone in his/her pocket after being pulled over, you are not permitted to search them for the phone
  7. Petach

    Petach SC All-Pro

    Oct 22, 2011
    UK, Essex
    Peter Tachauer
    the same goes for those wearing hoodies which restricts peripheral vision and compounding the offence by having earphones in listening to music .....loud!
  8. Lightmancer

    Lightmancer Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Aug 13, 2011
    Sunny Frimley
    Bill Palmer
    Interestingly the inside of a car, although highly visible, is a "private place" under the terms of the Data Protection Act.
    Don't ask me how I know, but is worth a bookmark...
  9. dalethorn

    dalethorn Guest

    One of our big problems in the U.S. is police shyness due to perception of 'profiling'. My local police don't have that problem by and large, but across the harbor in the big city it is a big problem. Anyway, we do need some changes. The insurance co's here had the power to get every state to enforce seatbelt usage, now the challenge is developing technology and rules to combat the distracted driver syndrome. BTW, my local police have some clever ways to get the driver out of the car, so they can glance around a bit...
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