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Weather Resistant Compact?

Discussion in 'Open Gear Talk' started by Biro, Dec 10, 2013.

  1. Biro

    Biro SC All-Pro

    Aug 7, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    Riddle me this, Batman: Is there a weather resistant compact - as in pocketable or only slightly larger - camera with good image quality on the market? A serious compact. I don't mean one of the weatherproof, tough cameras. They're great for what they are but image quality and external controls are a bit on the limited side. Maybe I'm having a brain freeze but I can't readily think of such a camera.
     
  2. bartjeej

    bartjeej SC Hall of Famer

    Nov 12, 2010
    bart
    The Sony RX10 has some weather sealing, but probably not the same level as for instance an OM-D. The Fuji X-S1 has some seals on the lens. Other than that, you'll have to look for the Nikon AW-1. All the WR lenses for the OM-D series and the GH3 are too large for what you describe. The 35/2.8 for the Sony a7(r) might be small enough.

    In terms of waterproof compacts, the Olympus TG1 / 2 is probably the best it gets right now, in terms of image quality.
     
  3. kyteflyer

    kyteflyer ~@¿@~

    Jan 31, 2011
    Newcastle, Australia
    Sue
    The new Nikon 1 waterproof? Its larger than pocketable but still fairly small.
    http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/0...t-rugged-waterproof-mirrorless-digital-camera

    As far as I know, theres nothing between this and your basic waterproof small sensor compacts
     
  4. Biro

    Biro SC All-Pro

    Aug 7, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    Yes, that's exactly what I think. Strange. One would think there'd be a natural market opening for something like an Pentax MX-1, Olympus XZ-2, Fuji X20, etc with WR. Or even something smaller, like a Fuji XQ1 or Nikon P330, with WR. Sony might have really aced it by adding WR to the RX100 II. Maybe it's just me.
     
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  5. Djarum

    Djarum SC All-Pro

    Jul 10, 2010
    Huntsville, AL
    Jason
    No, not just you. A weather resistant enthusiast compact would be awesome.
     
  6. bartjeej

    bartjeej SC Hall of Famer

    Nov 12, 2010
    bart
    I've been waiting for a camera like that for ages... slowwwwwly but surely the manufacturers are moving in that direction...
     
  7. Lightmancer

    Lightmancer Super Moderator

    Aug 13, 2011
    Sunny Frimley
    Bill Palmer
    Sadly, however, I am not a weather-resistant enthusiast... ;)

    Sent from another Galaxy
     
  8. dougpayne

    dougpayne SC Regular

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    Oct 17, 2012
    Sebastopol, CA
    C.D. Payne
    I bought the Sony Cyber-Shot DSCTX200V on Ebay last week when Adorama was closing them out for $145. Original list was $499. Ultra-compact and waterproof to 5 meters. Auto HDR and other goodies, but the IQ is pretty disappointing. No raw and lots of artifacts in the jpegs. I'm keeping it for snapshots.

    Doug
     
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  9. Biro

    Biro SC All-Pro

    Aug 7, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    Yeah, that's the general problem with true waterproof cameras - IQ tends to be limited. The new Nikon maybe different. But I'd still love to see WR in a pocketable enthusiast compact.
     
  10. Tilman Paulin

    Tilman Paulin SC Top Veteran

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    Nov 15, 2011
    Dublin, Ireland
    No, not just you. Especially any serious compact with a fast lens would be great, since light levels aren't usually great in rain.

    Meanwhile I'll experiment with my MX-1 and a DIY raincover (disposable showercaps) :)
     
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  11. kyteflyer

    kyteflyer ~@¿@~

    Jan 31, 2011
    Newcastle, Australia
    Sue
    Its not just you. I'd like one as well. I'm thinking they haven't yet found a way to waterproof the bodies and lenses of cameras with lenses that extend. They may well be able to weather seal but you wouldn't take them in the water. If you note that with the exception of the AW1, the others are all sealed units. That is, no lens extension. There's no doubt some physical limitation. what we want would be a lot bigger because if it was going to have any zoom *and* a decent sensor, the lens will still need to be contained within the sealed unit. Of course, Nikon's adventure with the AW puts paid to that notion. I think there would be some reason like that, though, that nobody else has... and I would expect they will all be looking at the AW1, and their own offerings, and seeing the gap we are talking about.

    Next year, perhaps.
     
  12. Lightmancer

    Lightmancer Super Moderator

    Aug 13, 2011
    Sunny Frimley
    Bill Palmer
    As an aside, I'm not sure that there is an ISO standard for camera weatherproofing...?

    Sent from another Galaxy
     
  13. Biro

    Biro SC All-Pro

    Aug 7, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    Sue, all I'm looking for is an ethusiast compact that has WR the way many DSLRs and even zooms lenses have it. I'm not looking for full waterproof status. However, if they came up with one it would still be great. But as long as true waterproof cameras generally require folded optics in order to keep all of the moving parts inside, image quality will remain limited. That's why the Nikon seems to be different.
     
  14. kyteflyer

    kyteflyer ~@¿@~

    Jan 31, 2011
    Newcastle, Australia
    Sue
    OK, I get you now. Well, I am certain that its possible to WR (like Pentax did, even with its entry level) and I don't know why they don't do that, perhaps its their incorrect perception that people who buy cameras that the manufacturers don't really consider to be serious (unlike people like us)... those people won't go out in crappy weather. They are wrong, of course.
     
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