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Wide, fast, small . . . suggestions?

Discussion in 'The Watering Hole' started by Jock Elliott, Jun 10, 2014.

  1. Jock Elliott

    Jock Elliott SC All-Pro

    Jan 3, 2012
    Troy, NY
    I'm thinking about a possible replacement for the G12 as my everyday concealed carry camera.

    It has to be:

    - wide, at least 28mm equivalent, 24 is better
    - fast, with good low-light capabilities for capturing misty dawns and fading sunsets
    - small, but big enough for two hands (the G12 is about the right size, an RX100 is too small)
    - equipped with a decent EVF or OVF that allows fairly accurate framing. Rear-screen-only is a no go.

    Suggestions?


    Cheers, Jock
     
  2. ReD

    ReD SC Hall of Famer

    Mar 27, 2013
    x20?

    possibly the x30 rumoured soon
     
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  3. NightBird

    NightBird SC Regular

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    Apr 23, 2013
    Sydney, Australia
    Darren
    Agreed. Sounds to fit the bill fairly well. Not the best OVF. I was going to sell my X20 but am selling my rx100 simply because the x20 feels better to me. Still can't beat the rx100 line for size v IQ though. Here's hoping the X30 addresses the poor OVF on the X20.
     
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  4. IVN

    IVN SC Veteran

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    Aug 27, 2013
    Do you need a zoom or a prime? If a prime is also OK, why not try a Nikon V1 with the pancake 10/2.8 prime out?
     
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  5. Luckypenguin

    Luckypenguin SC Hall of Famer

    Dec 24, 2010
    Brisbane, Australia
    Nic
    Olympus Stylus 1
     
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  6. Chrisnmn

    Chrisnmn SC Veteran

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    Jul 8, 2012
    Auckland, New Zealand
    Chris Leskovsek
    If you dont need a zoom I think the Ricoh GR plus an OVF ticks all your boxes and perhaps more.
     
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  7. drd1135

    drd1135 SC Hall of Famer

    Jul 13, 2011
    Southwest Virginia
    Steve
    Ricoh GR or Nikon A? Fixed 28 but good IQ and pocket-able.
     
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  8. Djarum

    Djarum SC All-Pro

    Jul 10, 2010
    Huntsville, AL
    Jason
    The rumored LX8 might fit the bill. Supposedly 1" sensor, 24mm-90mm f2-2.8
     
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  9. Biro

    Biro SC All-Pro

    Aug 7, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    Hi Jock. Among cameras currently available, the Ricoh GR with the OVF (now free with camera purchase at Adorama) comes to mind first. After that, perhaps something like an Olympus E-PM2 or E-PL5. The E-PM2 is essentially menu-driven but gives great results and is being heavily discounted right now. Put either the Zuiko 14-42mm f/3.5-5.6 EZ (28-84mm equivalent) or the Panasonic 14mm f/2.5 prime pancake (28mm equivalent) on it and you're golden. Oh yes, since the E-PM2 kits are so cheap now, you won't have a problem picking up the VF-3 EVF for it. After that, maybe a leftover or used Nikon V1? But I agree with Jason. Maybe you should wait to see what the Panasonic LX8 and Fuji X30 will be like. Both reportedly will have one-inch sensors.
     
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  10. ReD

    ReD SC Hall of Famer

    Mar 27, 2013
    ^ obviously at a premium cost initially - with probable reduction on the X20 soon after launch
     
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  11. NickLarsson

    NickLarsson SC Veteran

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    Jun 24, 2013
    Paris, France
    G1X Mark II ?
     
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  12. drd1135

    drd1135 SC Hall of Famer

    Jul 13, 2011
    Southwest Virginia
    Steve
    I'll admit that the first thing that came to mind when I saw the thread title was "hobbits". :smile:
     
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  13. Duane Pandorf

    Duane Pandorf SC Top Veteran

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    Apr 25, 2011
    Western NC
    Leica M (M9, M-E, or new M) with Leica 24mm Summilux.
     
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  14. Rhino123

    Rhino123 SC Veteran

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    May 11, 2014
    Singapore
    Tiew Chong Yi
    Is there a budget? I am thinking about EM10 (pretty small actually) or GM1 (very small... abit too small though since it is basically the same size as a RX100, but with lenses like the 12-50mm, I think holding it is quite simple.)

    The other camera that you can look into is the G1XmkII, since it is a Canon, and your old camera is a Canon G12, I would think that you should be very familiar with the handling... plus the G1X mkII is an excellent camera, great low light performance, good AF and had a hotshoe for many other accessories such as an external flash, viewfinder, etc (plus the viewfinder is selling at an okay pricing unlike the crazy cost of a viewfinder for the RX100mkII).
     
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  15. NkedFatWhiteGuy

    NkedFatWhiteGuy SC Rookie

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    Oct 29, 2013
    Fuji x20 was the right answer for me when I was searching. Have had it almost a year and a half and have never regretted my decision! ... that's a first for me with cameras btw ;)
     
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  16. Jock Elliott

    Jock Elliott SC All-Pro

    Jan 3, 2012
    Troy, NY
    I am, in fact, the world's tallest hobbit. Now I'm off to second breakfast.

    Cheers, Jock
     
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