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X-E1 or O-MD? Selling gear to get one of these, am I mad?

Discussion in 'Open Gear Talk' started by Ghosthunter, Oct 2, 2012.

  1. Ghosthunter

    Ghosthunter boo!

    Sep 8, 2010
    London UK
    Andy
    Hi folks

    I currently have the Panasonic GX1, Olympus E-PM1 (For my MF lenses) Fuji X100 and Panasonic LX7. I also have the Pana 14mm, 20mm, 14-45, 14-42 and Holga 25mm f8 plastic lens. I love these lenses!!!

    I think I have too many cameras for the amount I get to use them. Having Just one really decent camera and the LX7 is where I'm thinking of ending up. I'm thinking of either selling the GX1, E-PM1 & X100 and getting either a O-MD or X-E1. If I go the O-MD route I can keep the M43 lenses and have superior image stabilizing -or- Sell the M43 lenses and get the X-E1 plus a few lenses for slightly better IQ but no IS. I would probably keep the E-PM1 for my MF lenses though if I went this route.

    Am I MAD? I love my X100 and it would be a real wrench to sell it. Any other ideas? I'm keeping the LX7 as it was a freebe and it's a great compact that I have yet to explore.
     
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  2. christilou

    christilou SC Hall of Famer

    Jul 13, 2010
    Sunny Frimley
    No good asking another mad person :tongue:
     
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  3. Julien

    Julien SC Top Veteran

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    Jan 6, 2012
    Paris, France
    Julien
    You can sell both the GX1 and E-PM1 and buy the new E-PM2 or E-PL5 instead? You'll get the E-M5 sensor + IBIS, and can keep your AF and MF glass.
     
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  4. Briar

    Briar SC All-Pro

    Oct 27, 2010
    Scotland
    Karen
    Oh Andy, Andy, Andy .... no matter what we say you will sell the lot, buy what you want to buy, try it out, then sell it, then go back to buying something you had before. Mad? Yes, of course. But it's not hurting anyone and will make you happy.

    By all means start selling your kit now but I'd hang off until the beginning of spring before I started buying unless you do a lot of winter photography. You might get bored of your new toys before you get a decent day to try them out. But that's not a problem really, as by the spring your eyes will be flirting with another new cam!

    That's the best I got to dissuade you.
     
  5. bartjeej

    bartjeej SC Hall of Famer

    Nov 12, 2010
    bart
    regarding selling off your current gear - that's gonna hurt. you've got some amazing stuff already!

    regarding the choice between OM-D and X-E1 - personally I'd go for the OM-D since you already have the lenses for it, and I find the IBIS a nice bonus, and the tilting screen is very useful. The IQ difference is there, but it isn't huge IMO, at least if you have good lenses for the OM-D (and you say you love yours).

    julien: the E-PM2 and E-PL5 don't have the same 5-axis IBIS as the OM-D, they have a regular 2-axis system. But I can see your point, then you'd have the best m43 IQ possible, and get to keep the X100 as a viewfinder / lots of dials for manual control-camera
     
  6. Ghosthunter

    Ghosthunter boo!

    Sep 8, 2010
    London UK
    Andy
    :biggrin: Oh you know me tooooo well!! I do try and stick with what I have but....but.. well you know what happens :wink: I like the Idea of the E-PL5, Will wait and see what that's like. I really think the X100 is staying though....yes that's staying!!

    Oh what am I like eh! :dash2: :laugh1:
     
  7. Naveed Akhtar

    Naveed Akhtar SC Regular

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    Dec 8, 2011
    London, UK
    If I would be you, I will keep X100 forever, sell LX7 in coming 3 months, sell the two m43 bodies imediately with their kit lenses and get OM-D. So end up later with only X100 and OM-D!
     
  8. Pelao

    Pelao SC All-Pro

    Jul 11, 2010
    Ontario, Canada
    Stephen
    What do you like to shoot? Are there any photographic avenues you might want to explore?

    Let's figure out what you want to do with the gear; this might help you decide.
     
  9. Ghosthunter

    Ghosthunter boo!

    Sep 8, 2010
    London UK
    Andy
    Thanks but I have been shooting for over 6 years so I know in my head what area I shoot in. This isn't the Issue.....it's more to do with camera lust I think!!:biggrin:
     
  10. NathanJ

    NathanJ SC Regular

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    Sep 18, 2012
    The X100 get a lot of complaints, we all know how frustrating it can be. But I have never heard of anyone who likes the camera end up happy when they have sold it. Seems to be a common occurrence that these people buy another one a few months later because they found they couldn't live without it.

    Given that you already have the lenses I would say keep the X100 and get the OM-D.
     
  11. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    I'm kinda with Nathan on this one, but I can take it one step further. If you go for the X-E1, you need the X100 a lot less.....you'll already have the Fuji magic. When I was choosing between the Fuji system and m43, the thing that swayed me was that I enjoy shooting with longer focal lengths sometimes and Fuji just doesn't have it. The OMD puts out beautiful files, but anyone that tells you they are comparable to the Fuji ones are either blind or lying to themselves.

    And this is coming from someone who sold the Fujis and bought an OMD. So it's not fanboyism. (wait, did I just talk myself back into a Fuji?)
     
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  12. Ghosthunter

    Ghosthunter boo!

    Sep 8, 2010
    London UK
    Andy
    I have come to the conclusion today that the X100 is staying! I'm in no rush at all and I must confess as good as the O-MD is there is just something about it that makes me not want to buy one. I have no idea what it is!?!?! I think I'm going to save up and get the X-E1 and see if it out guns the X100. I won't sell the X100 untill I'm 100% sure the X-E1 is better in every respect.

    Sorted!
     
  13. Pelao

    Pelao SC All-Pro

    Jul 11, 2010
    Ontario, Canada
    Stephen
    Ya, I kind of knew that, but was trying to encourage some evolution...:biggrin:

    FWIW: On paper the Olympus is an awesome camera, and it seems that most users really enjoy it. And what's not to like? It's an incredibly versatile camera, with a lens line-up that will meet most needs.

    Personally, I don't like the Olympus. I don't connect with it. But I would recommend it any day.

    I have a Fuji, (XPro1) and enjoy everything about it. We're friends. I don't know the new one. I am sure I would be happy with it's general interface, though I prefer to have an OVF option. My Fuji is just so easy to use, the lenses are wonderful, and it really delivers.

    I suggest that the relationship you have with your camera is important. If it can handle what you want to shoot, and you 'connect' with it, then that's the one. Until a prettier one comes along :cool:
     
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  14. Pelao

    Pelao SC All-Pro

    Jul 11, 2010
    Ontario, Canada
    Stephen
    Yes, you are missing your Fuji. Your heart is broken. There is only one cure.
     
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  15. Ghosthunter

    Ghosthunter boo!

    Sep 8, 2010
    London UK
    Andy
    You are absolutely spot on and have written exactly how I feel about the OMD and my loving relationship with the X100. So the OMD is a deff no no....Fuji all the way for me!!:biggrin:
     
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  16. Gary

    Gary SC All-Pro

    Aug 19, 2012
    Southern California
    Gary Ayala
    I have a couple of OM-D's and I really like 'em. A number of things I don't like, but no camera is perfect. Never even used a Fuji so can't make a comparison. The OM-D is very versatile and can be used for action (not as good/fast as a dSLR ... but much better than the EP3 or GF/GX).

    Something to consider ...

    Find a system that will grow with you, a system that you'll think you'll be happy with for a long, long time. Having pretty much moved 100% from FF dSLR's to the OM-D, I was extremely frustrated by learning curve and how much my images suffered by lack of familiarity with the new camera and system. Then it dawned on me, that in the past, (the way way past when I was shooting professionally), I shot Nikon, everyday. After time the system became an extension of myself (back in the film-only days, when auto was a car not a camera setting). The camera and lens felt like a glove and the lens was a realty of how I saw the world. All the settings and manual lenses became pretty much automatic and I was able to focus nearly all my attention on the image in the viewfinder, my pre-visualized image and how I was gonna merge the images into one.

    Reaching that level of camera/system familiarity significantly improved my photography. So I strongly suggest for you to try to stick with one system, learn it inside out, shoot everyday, shoot until you feel odd walking about without a camera.

    Gary
    It has been my experience that the more familiar one becomes with the camera/system, the less mental times is given to h
     
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  17. Pelao

    Pelao SC All-Pro

    Jul 11, 2010
    Ontario, Canada
    Stephen
    Very solid advice.
     
  18. Landshark

    Landshark PhotoDog

    Jul 15, 2010
    SoCal
    Bob
    Owning both OMDs an Fuji XPro1s, they are both great camera systems that shoot and feel completely different. On paper the OMD should be almost perfect, but I just do not connect with the camera as much as I do to the Fuji. So I would suggest finding away to shot with each camera camera to get a chemistry check on which one inspires you too shoot. For me my OMD is going to used just for the more extreme lenses, 100-300mm, 75mm, 12mm, 7-14mm, may sell or keep 7-14mm and 45mm, and for sure selling all the middle ones and possibly one of the bodies. As the full Fuji lens lineup begins to fill out, I hope to have the 14mm, 18mm, 23mm. 35mm 56mm, 60mm and 10-24mm lenses in my arsenal
     
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  19. Biro

    Biro SC All-Pro

    Aug 7, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    Andy, if I were you, I'd wait until we get some more reputable tests about the Fuji X-E1. But if it turns out to be as good as we hope, then I'd sell all of my other gear except for the X100 and buy the X-E1 and at least a couple of lenses (but don't replicate the focal length the X100 gives you). Then you'd have an all-Fuji kit and the X100 can finally go after you know the new camera will replace it in your heart. Then pick up the 23mm prime for the X-E1. The X100 may have its issues but, as others have said, a lot of people who have sold their examples end up regretting it. In fact, I think I may pick up one myself if it ever goes on sale again. As for micro four thirds... if you ever regret selling off your gear, remember that the body prices for these cameras go into freefall after about a year or so. Picking up another micro four-thirds camera body and one or two lenses again should be no big deal. The Fujis appear to be holding thier value so far.
     
  20. Ghosthunter

    Ghosthunter boo!

    Sep 8, 2010
    London UK
    Andy
    Very interesting...another that cannot connect to the OMD! I know that on paper it's the right camera for me but the Fuji's are just......well.....just magical! I do love using the X100 a lot more than the GX1 but the GX1 is more practical. The OMD does look YUM in silver but still not as retro as the Fuji's. The XF1 looks very yummy for a compact too!